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I like Goddard for the NASA STR
STR program.

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Today we're with Jack Sadler for
the T 806 quantum sensing and

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measurement subtopic Jack.

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Would you mind introducing
yourself and giving a little bit

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Hi.

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of info about, you know, your
your expertise in the topic

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area?

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Sure.

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Thank you.

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Quinn's name is Jack.

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Jack Sadler, I'm a physicist by
training and I work in the

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detector systems branch at
Goddard.

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NASA Goddard and I am working in
different areas of both making

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quantum detector systems and
sensing systems for a range of

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NASA applications.

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Love it.

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Love it.

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Detectors and sensing systems.

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What?

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So what?

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What's the core objective of the
subtopic Jack and and how does

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it fit into the current state of
the art?

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So the the core concept of the
subtopic is to bring the

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emerging state of the art
technology that's in

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laboratories and and smaller
businesses around the country

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and taking it from.

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Laboratory to practice and being
able to touch into higher

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measurement sensitivities than
was possible before and and and

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this is achieved using different
quantum systems.

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Awesome.

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Awesome.

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What would you say would be some
of the critical gaps when you

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start talking about what
sensitivity and taking this from

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the lab to industry, what do you
think some of the critical gaps

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are there?

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Good, good question.

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So so some of it is NASA pushing
state of the art and what's

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possible in measurement and then
some of these other emerging

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OK.

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quantum technologies, what
they'll be able to do is, ah, do

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it with a great improvement in
reduce swap, that being reduced

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OK.

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size, weight and power and that
enables tremendous amount of

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science applications for NASA
across several lines of business

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that are priorities for NASA.

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OK cool.

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I really like that we're doing
the sensing.

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We're doing the measurement we
wanted to be more sensitive and

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we wanna reduce the swap of
these devices.

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Would that being said, how would
you envision the implementation

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and infusion into whether it's
NASA technologies or or the

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commercial space things we're
doing as an agency really,

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really as a nation?

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You know, how do you see that
fitted fitting into that and

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other other related fields?

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Yeah.

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So this is specifically part of
the STR program, so it requires

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a collaboration between
university and a US small

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business.

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And so this this is an excellent
position for quantum where we

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Good point.

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can get cutting edge technology
from a university laboratory to

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products that help fuel, you
know, the the emerging really

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quantum ecospace that's being
built in the United States and

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continuing to be invested in by
a number of different

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priorities.

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And both through government and
personal investment and so.

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OK.

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Yeah, go ahead, Jack.

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But that that's fine.

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Uh, sorry.

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What were gonna ask next?

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I would just I I think that's
that's great because you know

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the IT gives the universities a
chance to kind of participate,

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participate in our program and
that a lot of times they have

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the labs they had to research
their deeply and grafted into

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research and it gives them a
chance to like figure out OK how

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do we get from lab to industry.

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So I think it's a, it's a great,
great collaboration here.

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Last but not least, I think this
is my last question.

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Can you talk about some of the
broader impacts that this

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quantum sensing measurement and
communication in science and

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technology and even outside of
the space industry?

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Uh, yeah.

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So I mean, what what these new
and emerging quantum systems are

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doing is being able to make more
precise or higher accuracy

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measurements than it was
possible before.

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So some would include that using
a newer quantum technique, it's

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an an absolute measurement and
so we'll be able to use that to

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calibrate, say, space missions
or that go over long periods of

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time where if you have on board
fundamentally.

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Direct absolute measurements.

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Then we'll be able to separate
out the systematic drift of that

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instrument just aging in time
versus the target that's trying

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to be measured and and that will
lead to a better science and and

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answering more questions that
are a priority for NASA.

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What?

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What do you think about outside
the space entry?

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I know I said it was the last
question, but what about outside

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the space?

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Ohh so there the yeah the
there's a range of different

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applications throughout quantum
information science applications

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and so right here for this
subtopic we're focusing on

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sensing and quantum
communications, which boils down

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to making more secure
fundamentally secure

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communications.

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And so that will have a range of
applications and then also as

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quantum computers come online,
these, uh, these categories of

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sensing and and communications
blur considerably.

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Yeah.

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And you'd want a quantum network
to be able to tie that all

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together, and so eventually
having that in space is a

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natural extension, but a lot of
progress will be made on the

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ground with fibers and and until
it develops such that we would

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wanna do a space demonstrations
of extending a network.

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Yeah, that's awesome.

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I mean, I I I've heard about
this topic and the quantum

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computers, but a quantum
network, you know, it's pretty

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awesome, you know, that can be
used to rest.

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Really I can see the speeds
going up and just like you're

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saying, enable us to do more
research, more collaborative

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research between, you know,
inter agencies, government

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agencies, either universities we
have like you know the, the, the

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quantum computers doing the
computers as well as the sensor

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networks with regards to to
broader impact.

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Anyway, I think this this is
enough.

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Ohh, a discussion here.

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Jack, I.

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I'm gonna just leave this.

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I think we're gonna end it here.

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Thank you so much for your time.

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Thank you, queen.

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All right, I want to.

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I just stopped sharing my screen
so they may just have to edit

3580e353-1925-4c91-8a5b-433e6c20ff6c/1224-1
00:06:16.484 --> 00:06:18.133
this out but stop recording.