Show 1: Exploration
Featuring: Medianaut Quarantine, ESA with Franklin, Pat Cosgrove interview
NASA EDGE is:
Chris Giersch: Co-Host
Blair Allen: Co-Host
Franklin Fitzgerald: News Anchor
[MARS]Voiceover: Mars. The Red Planet. Exploring the next frontier.
Chris: Hey, were back on NASA EDGE.
Blair: An inside and outside look at all things NASA.
Chris: Hey Blair, before we actually get to the news segment today, I want to let the viewers know we are going to be interviewing a good friend of ours this afternoon.
Blair: Yes, Pat Cosgrove.
Chris: That's right. He's an engineer from NASA Langley Research Center and he's going to talk to us about the Vision for Space Exploration and his role in that vision.
Blair: Getting back to the moon.
Blair: It's very interesting.
Chris: And maybe we can... talk about our little golf tournament we had with him.
Blair: If he's willing to talk about it, I think that's a great idea but let's go to the news right now.
Chris: Let's do that.
Blair: My favorite segment.
Chris: What's up Franklin?
Franklin: Hey, NASA partnered with Jamestown 2007 to promote exploration, past and present. A team from NASA traveled with the Godspeed Sail, which is an actual 88-foot replica of the original Godspeed ship that brought explorers here to Virginia in 1607. They traveled to six east coast ports this summer with a specially designed interactive exhibit highlighting the connections between the adventurous explorers who settled in Virginia almost 400 years ago, and NASA's plans to explore space and establish a presence on other worlds.
Blair: So they were like colonialnauts?
Chris: I guess you could call them that. That's a good one.
Franklin: And at the celebration next year, the royal family is going to be there. We're going to have Queen Elizabeth, her family and I believe President Bush is also going to show up.
Chris: This is a great partnership between NASA and Jamestown because it's the whole theme of exploration. It's exploration past, present, and future and how we can compare and contrast exploration back in 1607 to today.
Blair: We need to go. We need to be there with the royal family and the president and hob knob.
Chris: We'll see if we can pull some strings. What else Franklin?
Franklin: In other news, the shuttle astronauts will make one final house call to NASA's Hubble Space Telescope as part of a mission to extend and improve the observatory's capabilities through 2013.
Chris: I tell you what, that's an exciting moment for all the astronomers and scientists out there.
Chris: At some point we thought Hubble was going to be....
Blair: NASA's still making house calls.
Chris: But now, we're still making a house call. Along with the 27 terabytes of information that have already been produced in 16 years, we'll be producing some more of it over the next several years.
Blair: Hopefully we'll get some on the show and maybe we can share those with people when they come down.
Blair: That would be awesome.
Franklin: Hey guys, speaking of collecting information, I think that's a great segue to our new segment we call…
Franklin: And ESA stands for Extra Studio Activity, which is an acronym.
Blair: A new NASA acronym.
Chris: One of many.
Franklin: NASA is full of acronyms. The acronym we talked to the public about on this ESA is…
Chris: Is that kind of like a man on the street segment?
Franklin: Yes, man on the street.
Blair: Except it's an ESA.
Franklin: It's a new segment but I think you'll find this ESA pretty interesting and informative.
Chris: Wonderful. Let's go check it out.
Blair: This is Franklin's ESA brought to you by NASA EDGE.
Franklin: What does NASA stand for?
Interviewee: Naval and Air Space Aeronautics?
Interviewee: Ah, you mean....
Franklin: The acronym NASA. What does it stand for?
Interviewee: Go ahead they're interviewing you.
Interviewee: I don't know.
Interviewee: Natural Aeronautics Station Avionics?
Interviewee: They're going to kill me at work.
Franklin: Do you work with NASA?
Interviewee: No, I work for the government.
Franklin: Oh, shhhh.
Interviewee: National Aeronautics and Space Administration.
Franklin: Man, he's the Johnny on the spot.
Franklin: What have been some benefits of space research?
Interviewee: The non-flushable toilet, I think.
Interviewee: I mean… as far as different satellites.
Interviewee: Cell phones amongst other things.
Interviewee: Our climate and the weather changing.
Interviewee: The microbial issues, you know.
Interviewee: Memory foam.
Franklin: Memory phone?
Interviewee: Oh foam, Oh memory foam pillow, my bad!
Interviewee: Knowing more about the universe, maybe about "n" times.
Interviewee: We have to go into outer space because we're running out of room on this planet. You're laughing. You're laughing.
Franklin: Well, there's plenty of space out here on the beach, right?
Interviewee: Yeah, but we're not living out on the beach though.
Franklin: Where were you when NASA first put man on Mars?
Interviewee: I wasn't born yet. Neither were you.
Franklin: You weren't born yet?
Interviewee: Oh, on Mars. Sorry, I was thinking Moon. Sorry, my first reaction was Moon.
Franklin: So where were you?
Interviewee: New York City.
Interviewee: Actually I was on the beach in Sao Paulo. I know that for a fact.
Interviewee: I was... I don't know where I was. I was probably selling hot dogs.
Interviewee: I was unaware that this actually happened.
Interviewee: Probably in school.
Interviewee: I think somebody's been on Mars.
Franklin: You think someone's been on Mars?
Interviewee: Yeah. I know they made a movie about it.
Interviewee: I don't recall.
Interviewee: Chronicles of Riddick.
Interviewee: Man hasn't been on Mars yet. Man, he's trying to okie-doke us.
Interviewee: That was the okie-doke.
Interviewee: No, they didn't put no man on Mars. What are you talking about?
Franklin: I was just asking a question.
Interviewee: The Moon... '69. We haven't put a man on Mars. He's trying to catch me.
Interviewee: We're going to get there.
Franklin: It's all good.
Chris: That was a pretty cool ESA.
Blair: Yeah. That was awesome.
Chris: Great work Franklin
Blair: Good work.
Franklin: It was a lot of fun getting out and talking to the public here in Virginia Beach.
Chris: That was the hokie-doke of all ESA's.
Blair: That was the okie doke as they say.
Chris: Okie-doke, I apologize.
Blair: And, it was, my personal favorite -- "microbial issues."
Chris: Microbial issues, that's right. In fact, what was good about the ESA segment is this is what NASA EDGE is all about.
Blair: That's what we're supposed to do.
Chris: Trying to educate the public about all things NASA.
Blair: I'm still learning.
Chris: I'm still learning as well. There are so many benefits of space exploration, so many spin-off technologies, so much that is going on at NASA.
Franklin: Hey guys, were going to have a whole lot more coming up in upcoming shows. So stay tuned to stand by.
Blair: So everybody watch out if you see Franklin coming down the street with a NASA EDGE microphone, get to an internet cafe or something.
Franklin: Just come talk to me, I'm harmless.
Chris: It's all good.
Blair: He's cool too.
Chris: Hey, let's take a break because we're about ready to have Pat Cosgrove on the line.
Chris: While were breaking we'll show our second trailer that we produced.
Blair: Yeah. New promo. Excellent.
Chris: Right here on NASA EDGE
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Kim: How about Pegasus?
Sharon: Like from Battlestar Galactica?
Kevin: Look. If you're gonna rip off TV shows, why don't you make it a good one?
Mike: The new series is awesome.
Kim: I'm talking Greek mythology. You know, Perseus' flying horse, Pegasus.
Kevin: Greek mythology? Let's go with a whole new style.
Tom: We have a critical task here, folks. We're naming NASA's new crew exploration vehicle.
Kevin: Exactly. We don't want to name the thing after some flying pony.
Kathy: Hey guys, turn on the TV.
Television: …Just announced a few moments ago from the ISS, that the name of the new crew exploration vehicle is Orion. This is all part of NASA's new undertaking to go to the Moon, Mars and beyond.
Tom: What about Orion?
Group: Yeah, Orion.
Sharon: Much better than Enkidu.
Sharon: Orion's Aegean counterpart.
Mike: I think you just like saying 'Enkidu.'
Chris: That looked good.
Pat (offscreen): Yeah, felt good.
Chris: Tell you what Pat, going back to the vision, I'd love to be the first astronaut back to the moon.
Pat: Ah man, that sounds great.
Chris: Just getting out of the spacecraft and setting foot on the surface.
Chris: That was terrible.
Pat: It's crazy to think about growing up and seeing it on TV like that and then we're going to be a part of putting it back, in reality. That's exciting.
Chris: That's a good shot. That's really going to be challenging though. It's like trying to hit a driver on a short par 4 and trying to reach the green. I can see that as a correlation to the challenges it's going to take to get back to the moon.
Pat: I heard somebody talk of the analogy of teeing off here and scoring a hole-in-one at St. Andrews, over in Scotland. It is a lot like the pros, not to blow our own horn, we do make it look easy. All the launches we had during the Apollo era and shuttle era. After awhile, it seems like it's a piece of cake. It's really difficult. We're finding out just how many things we have to relearn from the Apollo days.
Chris: It's the same thing with the shuttle program. The public thinks we go up every few months, and it's a piece of cake. But it takes a lot of hard work and a lot of challenges to overcome.
Pat: Speaking of challenges, where's Blair? Have you, have you uh...
Chris: I don't know where the heck he's at. You would think even being a scratch golfer he still needs to get a little practice in.
Pat: Yeah, why don't we make sure he's doing that.
Chris: Let's check the putting green to see if he's there.
Pat: Sounds good.
Blair: Found it! Right next to the hole. I think I'm getting it.
Pat: Hey, look at the hat.
Chris: Oh, no.
Chris: That's Blair.
Pat: Blair? He told you he was a scratch golfer?
Chris: Let's go see him. English majors.
Blair: I know we didn't do well in the tournament and that's largely my fault. But on the last shot in the footage, I thought I looked great.
Chris: Blair, come on. Not do well in the tournament? Pat and I carried you all the way through. We didn't even use one of your shots in the tournament.
Blair: I know. I appreciate you still being kind but hopefully Pat will still talk to us. I think we do have him on the line.
Chris: Pat, are you on the line?
Pat: Yeah, I'm here.
Chris: Pat, how are you?
Blair: Please forgive me.
Chris: I apologize Pat.
Blair: Sorry about that.
Chris: Blair is not a scratch golfer. I don't know who told me that but I do apologize, and I'll make it up to you.
Pat: No worries, it was fun.
Blair: Pat, were glad to have you today. What we wanted to do is start with a few quick questions that Franklin asked the public when he went on his Extra Studio Activities. If it's okay with you, we want to run you through the same rigorous questionnaire.
Chris: And we are going to keep score, Pat, since you are the first official researcher on NASA EDGE.
Blair: Premiere show... premiere interview.
Chris: We'll keep a tally throughout the year to see which researcher answered the most questions.
Blair: Maybe win prizes, we'll see.
Chris: That's right.
Blair: First question, what is... what does NASA stand for?
Pat: NASA. That's National Aeronautics and Space Administration.
Chris: Very good.
Blair: Awesome, right off the bat.
Chris: I'm glad he got that right because if he didn't...
Blair and Chris: ...there'd be no interview.
Pat: I'd be in trouble.
Blair: It's called dial tone.
Chris: Question number two -- what are some benefits of space research?
Pat: Benefits all over the place but the primary areas I'd say are medical field, high-tech materials, shape memory alloys. I don't know if you guys have ever heard of that. Metals that come back to their original shape no matter what temperature they've been heated to.
Chris: Like self-healing concepts?
Pat: It's more for structural uses. Materials that just come back into shape.
Blair: Wow. There are like six interviews I want to have just based on this one concept.
Chris: We have plenty of shows.
Blair: I know.
Chris: It's just the first show.
Blair: I'm getting giddy.
Chris: This is just the beginning. Sorry. Alright Pat, we have a third question. This is probably the most important question that Franklin asked, and you might have to think about this for a few seconds. Where were you when man landed on Mars?
Pat: Human beings have never landed on Mars, Chris.
Blair: Now are you sure about that?
Pat: I am almost positive.
Chris: Well we had someone who was in New York City when it happened.
Blair: And some people in Sao Paulo.
Pat: No, it's going to be a couple decades yet.
Chris: Okay, well good. I think he got the three questions correct.
Blair: You're three for three.
Chris: So, one hundred percent for Pat Cosgrove on show number one.
Blair: Yes. And these are more subjective questions for the rest of the interview. First, this would really help me, since I don't know as much, certainly not as much as Chris. Tell us a little bit about the vision for space exploration.
Pat: The vision for space exploration begins with retiring the current space shuttle. The shuttle has been around for a few decades and we are building a new vehicle to replace it. We have to do that in a smart way to make sure that the space station, the astronauts, and the research that goes on in the space station continue to be supported. That starts in 2010 with the shuttle retiring. The follow on launch vehicle, Aries, that is the project I work on, is going to start flying in 2014.
Blair: Correct me if I'm wrong, the Aries I, it looks like the older Saturn rockets? It is that style, not the shuttle-esque look?
Pat: That's right. With the solid rocket booster from the current shuttle program on the bottom, an upper stage engine which carries the fuel, then an upper stage engine on top of that, and the capsule way up on top.
Chris: And that capsule... what's the name of that capsule on top?
Pat: That's the Orion capsule.
Blair: The newly named Orion, I might add.
Pat: That's right.
Blair: Very good.
Pat: That will start flying with astronauts in 2014 and then we're going to continue to expand out, flying to the moon in 2018 and then eventually to Mars sometime around 2030.
Chris: Maybe if we're long enough with NASA EDGE, we could actually broadcast live on the moon in 2018.
Blair: And, actually, if you could help us out and make sure we could have a presence or do a show on actually on the lunar surface that would be great.
Pat: Count me in.
Blair: You would be the guest of honor, our number one fan.
Chris: Of course with your golf clubs too.
Pat: Count me in. I hear the view from there is incredible.
Blair: I can caddy for you. I won't actually try to play anymore.
Chris: What specifically is your role at NASA?
Pat: I'm the deputy manager of the work that goes on here at NASA Langley Research Center in Hampton, Virginia. What we're primarily responsible for is the aerodynamic database for the Aries launch vehicles. Basically what that means is all the wind tunnel testing and analyses to verify, you know, make sure that when we push that button and launch with astronauts on board that that vehicle is going to perform as we planned and safely return astronauts to space.
Chris: Sounds like a pretty important job.
Blair: Yeah. Exactly. I wonder if Thomas had a database that he used when he pulled me out of quarantine and launched me across the room? If he knew it was going to work out as well as it did for him.
Chris: I'm sure that database is quite extensive.
Blair: Hey, Pat. If you don't mind... this is great stuff. If you could stick around for a little bit longer, after the break, could you come back and answer some email questions?
Pat: Yeah sure, absolutely.
Chris: Stay on board, don't hang up, we'll be right back.
Blair: It's Chris and Blair on NASA EDGE...
Chris: An inside and outside look at all things NASA.
Blair: And welcome back to NASA EDGE with Chris and Blair.
Chris: An inside and outside look at all things NASA.
Blair: And Pat Cosgrove, who's agreed to stick around and answer a few emails. So let's jump right in.
Chris: Pat we have a few emails from people around the country who'd like to ask you some questions. Some are personal, some are generic. First one is from Katie in Lynchburg, Virginia. And her question is, "What made you want to be an engineer?"
Pat: Well, I was always good at math and science and my dad was an engineer. He steered me in that direction and I went with it.
Blair: We have one here from Sid in Ontario, California. He says he knows you like golf but he wanted to know, "What you do outside NASA besides golf?"
Pat: I love to travel. My wife and I went to Bali on our honeymoon, all the way across the world.
Blair: Congratulations by the way.
Chris: Wait a minute, I've heard of Bali. But where is Bali?
Pat: It's in Indonesia, on the opposite side of the world. Amazing, just amazing. We have a lot of family and friends spread across the country. We love to travel and see them. Love movies... see movies all the time, the theatre, DVD's at home. Love the Bears.
Pat: Go Bears!
Chris: I think we need to cut this interview off.
Blair: Yeah. I'm sorry. We love the Bears too, especially if they face the Cowboys.
Pat: That's going to be in my favor, Blair.
Blair: You know what? Note to self, Pat's no longer going to be on the show, at least not during football season.
Chris: Ok. We have another question. This is from Rich. He is in... from Los Angeles, California. We got two questions from California.
Chris: Kinda neat question. Remember from the beginning of the show, we had the quarantine issue with Blair, who is scarred for life now because someone played a joke on him, and he had an empty room last night. The question from Rich is, "If you were quarantined, what would your accommodations be like?"
Pat: Well, it would be like a major "cush" living room with a big screen TV to watch my Bears, of course. Fireplace, couch - nice cushy couch, and a huge fridge with homemade food.
Chris: Now, don't forget the golf net inside the room too.
Blair: It's clear to me that no one can take the rigorous quarantine like I can. I guess as a medianaut, I'm capable of really harsh conditions whereas you guys seem to be on the lighter side of toughness here.
Chris: Pat, thank you very much for being with us today. And this sort of wraps up our email segment. Stay in touch.
Blair: Yes, absolutely.
Pat: Thank you both very much. Appreciate the great work you guys are doing to get the word out about NASA's exploration vision.
Blair: You make it easy with all the jobs you work on and cool things you're doing for NASA with the new vehicles and our trip back to the moon.
Chris: We'll be calling you, if you don't mind, every now and then to get an update of what's going on and how your job's going.
Pat: Sounds great.
Blair: Thanks a lot, Pat.
Chris: Have a great day.
Chris: Hey, I want to thank Pat Cosgrove for taking time out of his busy schedule to be with us and chat and answer some e-mail questions.
Blair: I'm just glad he's still speaking to me.
Chris: Yeah, well... I glad I'm still speaking with you after seeing that performance.
Franklin: I'm glad you're speaking to each other after the way you were swing the stick.
Blair: It was rough. But I have a long history of being very bad at golf. I thought "scratch" was a negative term.
Chris: Well you know, after seeing your little quarantine video that Franklin put together and seeing your golfing, I can see how you're, well, just uncoordinated.
Blair: I have a shoulder injury or something from that parabola I did in the hallway.
Chris: Hey, well we have plenty of shows to work on your game.
Blair: Fair enough.
Chris: And to work on getting you in touch with NASA.
Blair: Still need to do that, for sure.
Chris: Hey, our next show is going to be at the 2nd Space Exploration Conference in Houston, Texas, December 4th to the 6th. Look forward to going down there, and maybe visiting with folks not only from the NASA community but from the air and space community as well.
Blair: Which will be great. And Franklin, I'm sure, will have another ESA for us.
Franklin: Citizens of Houston, standby. I'll be on my way soon.
Blair: Very good.
Chris: Good deal.
Chris: By the way, we want to thank everyone today...
Blair: Yes, all our guests, everyone. The crew involved.
Chris: Please come back to see another episode of NASA EDGE
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Chris: Have a great day.