MALE SPEAKER: Well, I'm an engineer. I remember the Challenger disaster. I also remember the one that blew up on the on the pad, because I had to read the reports on that of why cold weather and O rings didn't go. So we made that the admiral made us all read that to learn about how you don't rush decisions, and you let engineering and science take over. You don't avoid it just because of a program.
And the other thing is when Challenger disaster, I was at sea in the Gulf of Mexico on a Naval ship, and we were watching the liftoff from the ship and just couldn't believe it happening, but I'm in favor of space flight, as an engineer. You got to explore.
INTERVIEWER: NASA is going to return to the Moon in 2020 and on beyond to Mars. What are your thoughts about that type of future spacecraft?
MALE SPEAKER: I'm not so sure about Mars, but then again, it's hard to say because they keep saying, well, maybe there was water, maybe there's ice, and could it have had life on it. It's a little difficult when you say that's a little bit closer to he sun, and I don't know whether something could survive.
Going to the Moon, we're there. Maybe you just need to learn some more, but going to some of the other planets like Venus might be more advantageous in the long run.